The Bitchspot Report Podcast #34

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Episode 34: Even Better Than The Onion!

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Show Notes:

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And Now  The News:

Rand Paul: ‘There’s a worldwide war on Christianity’

Onion beats AP by months on Vatican damage control of Pope Francis.

Egypt bans Muslim Brotherhood.

Ancient confession found: ‘We Invented Jesus Christ‘.

You Believe What?:  Presuppositionalist Nonsense

What it is.

Matt Dillahunty vs. Matt Slick Debate on The Atheist Experience.

Recent episode of The Atheist Experience featuring a presuppositionalist.

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6 Responses to The Bitchspot Report Podcast #34

  1. Rick K. says:

    Sitchin stole his idea about Venus spawning from Jupiter. Immanuel Velikovsky was the first crank who came up with that crazy idea, back in the late 1940’s, and finally got it published in 1954. I recommend reading “The Pseudoscience Wars: Immanuel Velikovsky and the Birth of the Modern Fringe” by Michael D. Gordin.

    • Cephus says:

      Actually, that’s something I’ll have to mention to Mike since he’s our resident conspiracy craziness expert and maybe get him over here to respond to your comment. I’ve read Velikovsky’s “Worlds in Collision” long, long ago but honestly don’t remember a lot about it.

      • Rick K. says:

        If you read “Worlds in Collision” as a fiction work — like a mock science book — it’s fascinating how imaginative Velikovsky can be. As a work of real science, however, it fails in every major way. Don’t bother dragging it out and reading it again, unless you want to read Sagan’s critique of it in “Broca’s Brain” at the same time.

        Yeah, the conspiracy possibilities are interesting, since there are still a few True Believers who insist Velikovsky got it all right, but other scientists deliberately conspired to shut him up. There’s a bit of truth behind that claim, so it keeps the True Believers plugging on with their other, wilder ideas.

        • Cephus says:

          Or, now that I think about it, Martin Gardner’s “Fads and Fallacies in the Name of Science”, which had a section on Velikovsky. Don’t worry, I’m not at all interested in re-reading pseudo-scientific nonsense, once is more than enough for most of it. There’s no real difference between the pseudo-science true believers and the religious true believers, both are supremely convinced that they’ve got it right and everyone else must be out to get them. Too bad none of them have any actual evidence or scholarship to back up their claims.

          • Rick K. says:

            I have Gardner’s book on my Amazon wish list. It’s amazing how far back pseudoscience goes. I should buy a copy soon.

            You might find the latest Exposing PseudoAstronomy podcast episode, number 90, interesting. Dr. Robbins takes on a few of Billy Meier’s predictions concerning the number of moons of Jupiter and Saturn, and the rings of Jupiter.

            The blog about the episode has several lengthy comments by Michael Horn, who volunteers to be Meier’s attack dog. Horn tends to use a rational, conversational tone layered with condescension, as if he’s had to “refute” these counter-claims so many times, he’s nearly exhausted from the effort. Horn definitely falls into the category of True Believer.

          • Cephus says:

            To be honest, reading through Gardner and Sagan, it’s rather disturbing how little anything changes in pseudoscience. The same things Gardner was saying in the 50s, Sagan was saying in the 90s. Some humans never grow up.

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